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- British Regional Transport Association (BRTA)/Richard Pill
- Bedford, Bedfordshire, United Kingdom
Monday, 2 November 2020
ERTA Update November 2020
Tuesday, 20 October 2020
ERTA Guildford Meeting 16-10-20 and follow-on notes
The English Regional Transport Association (ERTA) is a voluntary association seeking the re-railing of select closed lines for the betterment of people, places and society. The closures of the 1960's were short sighted, ill-conceived and the legacy is locked-in dependency on roads, vehicles and fossil fuel with congestion, land use parking and emissions a side effect detrimental to public health and generating synthetic demand for more roads and strings of bypasses which free up brownfield land for ever more development then requiring more road capacity. Ancient towns and beauty spots cannot cope with it in normal times and the emergent society from Covid 19 needs to build a better reach and range of options which conserve land and gives transport choice. Guildford-Cranleigh-Horsham is one such strategic missing rail link.
Disclaimer please note: These are notes taken
during the meeting for a rough guide only. I took them down alongside the meeting.
They are intended to help bring out what was discussed generally and direct our
thoughts to next steps ideally of what we can all respectively do. Again,
apologies in advance if I’ve missed any name off or got them mixed up. If you
wish for amendment, please email specifics to richard.erta@gmail.com
Present: Richard Pill (Chairman of ERTA), Colin Crawford, Simon Barber,
H. Trevor Jones, Rob Cooke, George Potter, Ramsey Nagaty, Kathy Keeley, Zoe
Franklin, Cllr Alison Griffiths, David Daniels and others.
1. The Chairman welcomed everyone to the meeting.
2. Apologies for absence: Transport for the South East, Russell Spink,
Lucy Dixon-Thompson, Richard Moore.
3. Guildford-Cranleigh-Horsham Rail Reopening.
a. H. Trevor Jones of the Guildford Rail Users Group had objected to the
canal threat with others. The rail link has strategic value. There is a port at
Shoreham and potential for freight is another aspect. The benefit of access via
Guildford and Reading avoiding London is another plus point. This would free up
capacity. New spur would be needed at west of Horsham. Cycle and canal lobbies
want the sole use of the old trackbed with walkway retained. Whether in some
cases the old route can be widened out and/or waterways and cycle paths slewed
around the railway requirement, remains to be seen.
b. Getting around Cranleigh: A major issue. On the one hand Cranleigh
could gain by a rail link for things like ease of commuting, on the other,
subsequent development now and on-going, means the old route is blocked and
realignment is an issue. If you go west from the north, how easy is it to
re-join the old route south? Cranleigh is due for expansion as per Dunsfold.
It was suggested we need definitive list of what, where to consider. ERTA
would work on this, but it was suggested that we are not resourced to do much
of it as we live away from the area, lack means-ways and would need more
volunteers on the ground knowing what to put in the inventory for example.
Gardens backing onto old trackbed do not of themselves block reopening, but may
be objectors and/or to canals and other uses, but also could deter widening in
those places. Cllr Griffiths said also we need a series of questions and list
and GIS Mapping could include this scheme.
LRT another option, unsure of compatibility with freight, but also cost
comparatives and examples elsewhere of suitability over conventional rail
options. But could enable inclusion of Dunsfold development expansion:
Cllr George Potter of Guildford Borough Council we need a specific idea
of what a study should look at, a list. Guildford, Horsham, Surrey, Crawley,
Cranleigh, Waverley etc.
c. MP’s and other organisations:
Russell Spink of Transport for the South East: russellspink69@hotmail.com
MP’s for Guild are Ms Angela Richardson,
Waverley (covers canal application) Jeremy Hunt, Horsham is Jeremy Quinn, Mark
Griffiths Arundel Curve.
Concern of air quality and public
transport joined up with trains and buses at Shalford was mentioned.
Suggestion of a standard letter to MP’s
was touted.
e. Volunteers: Kathy Keeley and others
would liaise together as and when and where appropriate.
Matt Furniss was Surrey CC for Shalford.
4. Heathrow Southern Rail Link:
Some were not keen on Wisley having a
station on the Heathrow link as impractical, despite the HRA getting about 1
million visitors per year. They could do better to court the LRT from
Staines-Windsor-Byfleet or more buses. General agreement in sense for the
Southern Heathrow Link to go on to Old Oak Common interchange and – if ERTA had
its way – onwards spur to link onto the Chiltern Main Line. Gives London
orbital Banbury/Aylesbury-OOC-Guildford span of reach and range via the
airport, which could be 24 x 7 with capacity for freight in quieter times away
from residential areas.
5. North Downs Line Link: People unsure
of whether electrification was best idea, good standard trains of whatever
power is what matters surely? Likewise changing at Redhill some felt, not a
problem. ERTA had thought electrification and Thameslink reaching Guildford may
be worth looking at, but no clear view. Mr David Daniels of North Downs Line CRP
said bi-mode trains for the line were being looked at. It is an important link
off the Brighton Line and maybe if we got Guildford-Horsham reopened, a direct
curve from Shalford to Cranleigh and looping round Gatwick from the south could
boost all concerned as well as offering more capacity elsewhere.
6. Tonbridge – Gatwick Curve. Mooted
originally as a HS4 notion with a new route linking Gatwick and Heathrow, ERTA
had floated the idea before as a conventional condiment to our Guildford-Horsham-Gatwick
from the south idea, going on to Tonbridge and Channel Tunnel/Ashford for
example as an extreme reach and range. Not much enthusiasm at the meeting. HS4
was thrown out by DfT, but cost is an issue in context of current situations with
record debt, HS2 and balancing the books at the Treasury.
7. Guildford Current Rail and Bus:
Ramsey Nagaty – frequency of buses and trains at Shalford demand better
connections and tying up of linking services.
Rob Cooke raised the point of platforms
and capacity at Guildford and impact issues of redevelopment, more trains and
through onwards running rather than terminating at Guildford if reopening were
to occur? Generally, a concern was a. would there be more capacity at Guildford
rail-wise and b. impact of redevelopment whether better interchange or less
convenient or congestion? Kathy and Simon raised that we need to put
pedestrians and disabled people at the heart of planning and a bus station near
a railway station is better than segregation? It was noted the debate about
Guildford on these matters had rumbled on a long time. H. Trevor Jones said
they could put in more platforms at Guildford. George Potter said more
platforms and parking are a future contingency and may need to use current
sidings land. Meeting finished
approximately 15.11 and date of next meeting will be Friday 5 February 2021
14.00 hrs. Register via Mr Simon Barber:
T. 0208 940
4399, E. simon4barber@gmail.com
Sunday, 11 October 2020
Time to invest in the Bedford-Bletchley Railway!
Time to invest in the Bedford-Bletchley Railway!
ERTA lauds the collective combination of paid professional and voluntary inputs to making the railway as pleasant as it can be and fostering good will. However, ERTA believes that more needs to be done to make the line even better. Attracting passengers is a good thing, but can be a swing door if we lose them in equal measure. To stem the drain and ease off the constant pressure means people want the following:
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Reliability! People want to be able to rely on the trains service to take
people from where they wish to go and arrive safely at the destination of their
choice. This means trains fit for purpose and which work, happy staffing
relations, a healthy timetable and calling at places they wish to get to. Bank
Holiday and Sunday services and later evening trains have long been called for
here!
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Buses are no substitute for railway services! Since the 1960’s it has
been proven time and again that bus substitutes for rail services are unable to
keep to the timetable and are laden with all sorts of bedevilments as a result.
Every effort must be to make the trains work and keep them working. Studies
should be conducted to assess whether half hourly at peak time would be used.
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ERTA believes that a new station serving and giving access to the Retail
Park at Kempston, Bedford would be of benefit to attract more rail users for
shopping, wider area access and employment opportunities more. It is
disgraceful the station was not opened in the early 1980’s when the Retail Park
opened and even worse that rail users have been denied access ever since.
Wider vision to better integrate opportunities the railway offers:
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ERTA applauds the on-coming of the long-awaited East-West Rail between
Oxford-Bletchley and Bedford and very much hopes in some shape or form it
continued to Cambridge!
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However, it will need to be more than 1 train per hour, more like 2 per
hour and 4 coach trains will soon need doubling to 8 coach capacity, given the
bid for more users and modal shift back from road to rail.
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This means a redesign of Bedford Midland with more baying facilities for
more trains off the Bedford-Bletchley railway with some track alignment to make
the link between St John’s and the Bedford Midland faster and more robust.
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ERTA believes the best future for the railway would be an infill
electrification scheme and lengthening of halts to 4 coach capacity to enable
more diverse services, perhaps exploiting the end to end aspect of the commute
value the line offers. So, a Watford-Bletchley-Bedford-Corby service should
also be looked at.
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The line needs a freight plan. Laudable that talks are about a rail link
to serve new developments in some quarters, but the reopening of an investment
in Forders Sidings for things like a depot for recycling by rail from glass to
fridge’s, from old cars to paper, materials could be collected and sent for
processing by rail more serving a wide area. Think environment, think rail!
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ERTA believes that the old St John’s site should not be sold off and
redeveloped for housing, rather retained and used for rail related purposes.
Bedford has a chronic lack of capacity for more trains, stabling and parking
for rail users. Congestion across Prebend Street Bridge is rife and a 2-track
solution for more trains between Bedford St John’s and Cardington Road could
help. Also, the possible use of Ford End Road old loco shed site for more
parking and a second booking office could help. If they are lost to other
development, it locks in problems, not solutions! Join our free email loop richard.erta@gmail.com
ERTA News and Views October 2020
The ERTA successful events programme continues and I attach 2 meetings one for the Guildford area and associated South East transport matters and one for Northampton and associated rail related matters.
- London Forum (on Zoom) - this has now been agreed for Saturday, 28 November 2020 from 2-4pm
- Conference (on Zoom) - this has now been agreed for Saturday, 24 April 2021 from 2-5pm (1.30pm start)
Wednesday, 30 September 2020
ERTA Calls for the old Bedford St John's Station Site to be used for railway purposes.
With your kind indulgence, I attach our latest brochure extolling the virtues of saving the old Bedford St John's Station Site for railway purposes. It is the last stub access route for any future Bedford urban centre to Cambridge route and if we allow it to default to housing in-fill, we block it off and render the northern route or bust. A number of engineers I've spoken to have told me they are unimpressed with the northern route for east-west rail and it is time to think again.
Thursday, 24 September 2020
ERTA supports early delivery of rail links to Heathrow and beyond
23 September 2020
Press Release
ERTA supports early delivery of rail
links to Heathrow and beyond
ERTA is saddened by the Government’s constant
deferring of the much-needed new and better radial rail links to and from
Heathrow. Government should look beyond the Airport as a magnet in itself,
albeit it informs a footfall and market, none-the-less the wider strategic
gains should not be lost beit for Covid 19, the downturn of aviation or
environmental issues; rather these rail links could help reduce emissions anyway
and improve connectivity. Without them the Government is locking-in congestion
and emissions on local and regional roads, to, from and around Heathrow.
Key elements we would like to see:
1. Southern Rail Link, link from the
Guildford-Woking-Wisley*-Heathrow should go on to link with Old Oak Common and
onwards still to link with the Chiltern Main Line for destinations like Oxford,
Bicester, Banbury, Aylesbury and via the new East-West rail link, into Milton
Keynes and the West Coast Main Line.
* From Above: Wisley RHA courts over 1
million visitors per year normally, and should have a station to give a rail
alternative to driving and boost footfall on and off the rails.
2. South from Woking, ERTA has long called
for route protection and studying with a view to reopen the rail link between
Guildford-Cranleigh and Horsham, enabling direct rail access into Gatwick from
the south via Horsham and Crawley. This is a strategic missing link and sadly
under threat currently.
3. We support the direct link from
Reading-Heathrow and the Windsor Link Scheme, both of which should have a large
underground station at Heathrow with loops and inter-connectivity with other
existing and new rail lines, sharing same platforms and facilities for the
convenience of passenger usage and interchange.
End Press Release
Further comment: Mr Richard Pill, Media
Spokesperson: 07541 701718/richard.erta@gmail.com
Wednesday, 23 September 2020
East Midlands Connect Consultation
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