44. West Hampstead - new platforms for Chiltern Line services and possibly Metropolitan Line, thereby enabling interchange with North London Line, Thameslink and Jubilee Lines.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55322340
Notes of ERTA London Meeting Saturday 28th November 14.00 hours. Disclaimer: These are notes taken during the meeting and are for general reference and flavour only, not forensic.
2. Apologies: Mr Ivor Wiggett,
Cllr Awale Olad, Cllr Georgia Gould (Camden), Cllr Dan Tomlinson (Tower
Hamlets), Cllr John Locker (Wandsworth), Cllr Rowena Champion, Richard Watts (Islington),
Cllr Steve Curran (Hounslow), Cllrs Muhammed Butt, Shama Tapler (Brent), John
Dulwich (Barking), Cllr Claire Toghill.
3. Covid19 Considerations and Impact:
Public Transport – general rules of wearing masks, washing hands before and
after and taking precautions. Avoid rush hour and check beforehand if and where
lines are closed or bus-substituted.
Revenues are reported to be down on the general rail network 95% and
this has a devastating impact.
4. Muswell Hill Metro: The
proposal is to re-rail the Finsbury Park – Alexandra Palace rail link. Not much
happening because of Covid19 lockdown. The group wants to recruit especially
younger support. It and ERTA will forge links for 2-way support and making
common ground.
5. London Underground Extensions:
Contact as a significant contact: Ms Caroline Pidgeon.
Concerns current are safety on the
tube/underground. How safe are we? Theft is a concern.
Schemes raised included:
Kennington – Nine Elms, Bakerloo
Southern Extension, Cockfosters-Potter’s Bar, Barnet – Napsbury (a new station
south of St Albans) and via a duck-under to terminate either into a reinstated
second bay at St Albans Abbey and/or amalgamate into Watford Junction.
The Croxley Link (Baker Street Met into St Albans Abbey, with added proviso of Aylesbury-Watford sharing same tracks for link up as well. Watford West could be retained as an overflow capacity and/or a Metroland Museum.
Edgware and Stanmore to Watford –
problem is development has hit hard route options and accommodation. Could be
looked at and whether they could do more.
It was felt the various transport
systems around London need to be better integrated generally.
Hammersmith Bridge closed as in danger
of falling down, may reopen to pedestrians and cyclists but traffic will have
to be diverted elsewhere. Someone said there may be a ferry, but as yet no hard
and fast news.
6. London Orbital Routes. Dire
lack of outer orbital rail routes. Freight comes from Felixstowe-London-West
Coast Main Line and vice versa. If more direct rail links existed across north
of London i.e. East Anglia to the Midlands as per the A14 goes, then that would
free up a lot of capacity. Likewise, ERTA had called for an integrated approach
of 3 proposals for rail links from the south and west to Heathrow, to share
same tracks and go on to Old Oak Common (OOC) with a tunnel provision under it
to link with the Chiltern Main Line. That optimally would give an Aylesbury – Guildford
rail arc and Guildford-Horsham reinstatement would enable more for more and
buy-in to these new links and journey opportunities.
It was felt by many that Heathrow is a
polluter and noise issue and yet, regardless of whether it stays open or shut,
the legacy of better rail links utilising the opportunity afforded, remains
useful to court and usher along surely.
Peter said about his Lower Thames
Crossing Link for road and rail. He wants shipping to come to UK than Europe,
so we export more and raise revenues and drive down costs. That means some 7000
lorries per day by rail which is better for the environment.
His tunnel would link Kent and Essex and
send more to RAF Mildenhall – so out of London.
He also said digital signalling will
create capacity more as well.
It was agreed Richard to put the ERTA
ideas into a basic umbrella report to bring together the ideas and circulate it
with a press statement which ideally organisations like TFL, new London
Assembly, Network Rail and elsewhere can pick up on and work with to next
stages/give our ideas a boost.
London is growing again with M25 cordon
mooted as a natural boundary. Utilising M25 space in pertinent for orbital and
new rail links, extensions and integrated public transport designs. Land is premium
and must be retained for enabling rail projects like England’s Economic
Heartland (EEH) Southern East-West Rail Link to be realistic. The old St Albans
Abbey-Hatfield Line could be a candidate but about 8 houses sit on the old
formation and would need to be relocated which is always a sensitive issue.
Otherwise brand-new lines radiating and linking with a new station at Napsbury
needs wider consideration. Hertfordshire County Council say they have no
resources.
The Highways Road Tunnel idea has been rejected.
East London River Crossing / Silvertown is a road only, a missed opportunity.
7. Heathrow Rail Links: dealt
with see elsewhere.
8. New Lower Thames Transport Tunnel
– is road and rail in design. 50, 000 homes going into Essex but a key issue is
water supply. Discussion was held as to suitability of desalination plants like
they did for Perth’s water issues in Australia?
9. Crossrail: Things are
happening according to Simon. Many of these projects take a long time. They
also seem to over-run costs. Crossrail 1 will serve Bond Street, Tottenham
Court Road and Farringdon in central London and reach between Reading and Abbey
Wood/Shenfield. Crossrail 2 is on hold but would serve Clapham Junction, Euston
and Victoria. These links could relieve other parallel lines and free up
capacity generally it was felt.
10. Pitsea-Rayleigh et al scheme:
ERTA has long mooted it but so far, no backers for whatever reason. It needs
working up. But consists of a rail tunnel between the Dartford area and
Grays/Pitsea and a new-build link, taking on 4-5 trunk roads to link Pitsea to
Rayleigh. This would give Southend and South-East London direct arcing rail
links avoiding the need to go in and come out, freeing up seats, saving time
and money. Woolwich-Southend Airport could be a typical journey possibly. See
rough diagram which we want working up:
11. Appointment of area reps: It
was decided to have North East, North West, South East and South West Area Reps
charged with taking a general interest in what is going on, forging our
interests, recruiting new members, growing teams and liaison via these
meetings. An overall coordinator would also be welcome and could come on the
Executive Committee for liaison.
12. There was no other business.
13. Day, Date, Time, Place of Next
Meeting: Next Zoom Meeting will be Friday 26th February 14.00
hours. All welcome/open to all/please try and introduce a friend to us.
Meeting finished 15.30pm
Notes:
1. ERTA is enjoying more success and
better turn-out with Zoom and for large areas like London is easier and more
cost-effective time-wise than numerous area meetings at cost to ourselves. So,
a Zoom future is a way forward for now.
2. If any wish to be on our free no
obligation email loop, please send to richard.erta@gmail.com